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#1 Uncle Buck

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Posted 09 September 2011 - 12:22 AM

The Stoeger gun company is affilated with Benelli guns.. Often wonder if when we buy a Benelli shotgun are we throwing money away since it could be the cheaper Stoeger shotgun?

Does anyone know their Stoeger's and does anyone know their Benelli? What would be the difference? The metals it made out of????Could it be debated that the Stoeger pump for example is made to the same quality standard of the Benelli Pump??????

Same can be said when you compare both companies semiautomatic shotguns???????




Stoeger Pump

http://www.stoegerin...r_p350_pump.php

Benelli Pump

http://www.benellius...i_nova_pump.php

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Posted 09 September 2011 - 12:00 PM

Each gun should be stamped with where they are made.
My wife has a grandmother living in Urbino, Italy where Benelli is located..... I have had them drive me past the place just to say I have been there

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 11:12 AM

View PostUncle Buck, on 09 September 2011 - 12:22 AM, said:

The Stoeger gun company is affilated with Benelli guns.. Often wonder if when we buy a Benelli shotgun are we throwing money away since it could be the cheaper Stoeger shotgun?

Does anyone know their Stoeger's and does anyone know their Benelli? What would be the difference? The metals it made out of????Could it be debated that the Stoeger pump for example is made to the same quality standard of the Benelli Pump??????

Same can be said when you compare both companies semiautomatic shotguns???????

Stoeger Pump

http://www.stoegerin...r_p350_pump.php

Benelli Pump

http://www.benellius...i_nova_pump.php


Without looking into some of my old books about Stoeger I am not
able to say much about what they did as opposed to what they do
now that they are part of another company. However, I will say
that when two such companies merge there is always one that will
be the leading partner, or if bought outright, will make all of
the business decisions. This includes design of products.

Most likely in the case of Benelli/ Stoeger, there is no real
difference in the quality between the names. There will always
be some cosmetic differences, but never in the actual quality.
What they state about the construction and design of their
product, and the operation and function will be fact as well.

Some companies are purchased for the sole purpose of shoring
up the purchasers business with the name of a really good company.
When this happens all of the 'good' built into the former
company product will go by the wayside for a far inferior
product. The good name of the purchased company becomes bad,
but in the interim time immediately after the purchase the
buying company bleeds as much as they can off their new purchase.
This has happened many times with good companies being purchased
by ones that had an inferior product, but still had money.

Good can come of such purchases when a company is unable to
make their product sell well enough to keep operating with
a profit, but do have a good product, and a known name. If
another good company merges with, or buys the other company
they can make a good product while still using both names.
What this amounts to is that the parent company now has
two pockets in which money can be placed.

A good example of this type of business is International
Shoe Company. They have over 70 different brand names of
shoes. They rake in huge profits in this way. One brand
name is Florsheim Shoes. They are the high price line.
Another is Rand, and Randcraft. These are the average,
and lower price lines. What most do not know is that
all of these lines are the same, in the same factory.
The only difference is that at the end of the line an
inspection is performed, and the shoe with the most
perfect toe, inner lining, sole and welt construction is
sent to the high polish shine and boxed as Florsheim
while differences in the others relegate them to be
boxed as either Rand, or Randcraft. There are really
no construction differences, but merely cosmetic.

The fact that companies are always looking for others
they can buy is common. The more a foreign company
can buy out companies from another country the better
their profits will become. After all, they will have
the least labor costs, and may also have special
import restrictions lifted. The name of the game is
money. Whether the consumer wins or loses at this
game is totally dependent upon the quality being
offered, the price of the end service/ product, and
how much damage is done to the economy of the
country that lost control of their product.

In the case of Stoeger/ Benelli, it is in the
majority for Benelli, and 50/50 for the purchaser.
The quality is the same.

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Posted 04 November 2011 - 01:14 AM

To my knowledge neither of these guns has been out for morethan a couple months correct? So you’re not going to get many people thatreally know these guns true reliability. I think stoeger makes a good shotgunbut would obviously rather have the benelli. I think with the prices thatdifferent it all comes down to having the money to buy the benelli or not. I'mcurious why you are only choosing between these two guns? Does this stoegerresemble a Vinci? O and there is an 1100 dollar price difference



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Posted 04 November 2011 - 10:52 AM

I am not familiar with those guns, so I have stayed out of this conversation...but...I just wanted to jump in here and say ..... Carnie1, Welcome to the forum. Glad to have you join us.

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Posted 04 November 2011 - 09:21 PM

More on Stoeger and Benelli.
Alex Stoeger came to the US from Austria early in the 1920's.
He started out as an importer of various firearms. He began
manufacturing of his own designs in late 20's to early 30's.
He manufactured his own firearms until selling out to Sako,
a Finnish company, in the early 90's. Sako then sold out to
Beretta in 2000.

Benelli was started in the firearms business by Benelli
motorcycles in 1967 in Italy. Benelli was acquired by
Beretta about the same time as Stoeger/ Sako and several
other firearm companies.

The main thing here is knowing that both companies are
owned by Beretta firearms, which has been in business since
1526, and owned by the same family throughout the several
hundred years. Beretta is, and always has been an Italian
company, but with an 'offshoot' company known as Beretta
USA.

All the firearms manufactured by Beretta are all made with
quality in mind with only minor differences in cosmetics in
the less expensive firearm names.

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Posted 04 November 2011 - 10:12 PM

One thing for sure.....The Benelli company makes their semiautomatic shotguns in LH while Stoeger does not to my knowledge... Since I shoot long guns left handed I felt to get the full benefit out of a semiautomatic that it would be the LH SBE 2... My friend wife has a beautiful 20 gauge Stoeger semiautomatic shotgun..Looks like a Benelli actually looks like a Beretta... LOL

The Stoeger side by side shotguns are real nice.. Good gun that you don't have to baby in the rough stuff when your hunting upland game...

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Posted 05 November 2011 - 12:54 AM

View PostDJnRF, on 04 November 2011 - 09:21 PM, said:

More on Stoeger and Benelli.
Alex Stoeger came to the US from Austria early in the 1920's.
He started out as an importer of various firearms. He began
manufacturing of his own designs in late 20's to early 30's.
He manufactured his own firearms until selling out to Sako,
a Finnish company, in the early 90's. Sako then sold out to
Beretta in 2000.

Benelli was started in the firearms business by Benelli
motorcycles in 1967 in Italy. Benelli was acquired by
Beretta about the same time as Stoeger/ Sako and several
other firearm companies.

The main thing here is knowing that both companies are
owned by Beretta firearms, which has been in business since
1526, and owned by the same family throughout the several
hundred years. Beretta is, and always has been an Italian
company, but with an 'offshoot' company known as Beretta
USA.

All the firearms manufactured by Beretta are all made with
quality in mind with only minor differences in cosmetics in
the less expensive firearm names.

Thats good info Dave,

Den.

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Posted 05 November 2011 - 08:58 PM

View PostDEN, on 05 November 2011 - 12:54 AM, said:

Thats good info Dave,

Den.

Hi Den,

I thought I had better give some of the info since so
many seemed to be at a loss about the association of
the companies.





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