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#1 User is offline   Uncle Buck

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Posted 01 March 2010 - 10:05 PM

I read a lot of shooting magazines... Just notice this technique in one of my last issues.

Now for years...I would take a deep breath and then hold my breath and then of course just squeeze the trigger...

This articles says to do this:::Take a deep breath.....let your breath out and THEN HOLD YOUR BREATH then squeeze the trigger...

I tried doing it accross the room while my wife was watchign TV and she said what in the heck is wrong with you... No.. just joking about the wife thing... I tried this...holding my breath after letting it out of my lungs and I could see that it just might be better for me then holding my breath with the lungs full.


would like all you Marksman and Sharpshooters opinin on this? So do you hold you breath with your lungs full or let the air out of your lungs and then hold it.. Looking forward to trying this at the range and of course hunting chucks this Spring.. If it's that good I will use it for my night time rifle shooting at predators at 200 yards... You got to have everything going for you when your shooting 200-250 yards at night for predators.


By the way...Model99er stumbled on this too... I started shooting from a tripod standing at night time instead of sitting down.. You can't see for Jack .....when your sitting down and calling with a call at the same time looking for predator eyes to appear on the horizon......
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Posted 03 March 2010 - 12:11 AM

View PostUncle Buck, on 01 March 2010 - 09:05 PM, said:

I read a lot of shooting magazines... Just notice this technique in one of my last issues.

Now for years...I would take a deep breath and then hold my breath and then of course just squeeze the trigger...

This articles says to do this:::Take a deep breath.....let your breath out and THEN HOLD YOUR BREATH then squeeze the trigger...

I tried doing it accross the room while my wife was watchign TV and she said what in the heck is wrong with you... No.. just joking about the wife thing... I tried this...holding my breath after letting it out of my lungs and I could see that it just might be better for me then holding my breath with the lungs full.


would like all you Marksman and Sharpshooters opinin on this? So do you hold you breath with your lungs full or let the air out of your lungs and then hold it.. Looking forward to trying this at the range and of course hunting chucks this Spring.. If it's that good I will use it for my night time rifle shooting at predators at 200 yards... You got to have everything going for you when your shooting 200-250 yards at night for predators.


By the way...Model99er stumbled on this too... I started shooting from a tripod standing at night time instead of sitting down.. You can't see for Jack .....when your sitting down and calling with a call at the same time looking for predator eyes to appear on the horizon......



I know I have mentioned this before in here. The code word is BRASS.
Breathing, Relaxation, Aim, Slack, Squeeze.
I learned this many, many years ago, and have taught it ever since.

To increase accuracy there are several issues that a person must
address when shooting any firearm. As a matter of fact, it even
helps when bow shooting.

The 'breathing' part is the first thing that must be controlled
before you can actually 'relax' the rest of the body. To do this
you take several deep breaths, let about half the last breath
out when you are ready to 'hold'. Now, when speaking of a deep
breath, it does not mean a breath just as if you are goind to
hold your breath for a deep dive underwater for several minutes.
It just means that you need to breathe properly. Doing so will
help to regulate your blood flow, and heart rate. This is very
important for the next step.

For you to 'relax' you are really moving forward with the
control of your heart rate, and pulse. As you have stopped
your breathing, you have started to slow your heart rate.
Now to relax you must use a little 'mind over matter' by
beginning your concentration on your intended act of shooting
a target. Your whole body will relax so that your heart
slows, and so does your pulse. The pulse in your hands will
actually cause a slight pressure on your weapon, and you
will lose whatever accuracy you might have gained.

At this point a pro-shooter might find that he has taken
just a bit more time than he should. If this happens you
will see him lower his weapon to start all over again.
You don't ever want to 'rush' your shot if you want any
real accuracy. Just getting used to the habit of BRASS
will make it second nature to do.

Next comes 'aim'. This should be self-explanatory. Any
person that has not just picked up a firearm for the
first time will know what a proper sight picture would
be for the type of sight on his weapon.

For 'slack' a person must know just how much play
there is in the trigger before the weapon fires. You
want to take up this slack to be right at the point
where your actual trigger action begins.

'Squeeze' is also self-explanatory. One never just
jerks on the trigger. To do so will pull the sight
off the target as the weapon discharges. Use only
the first joint part of the trigger finger so that
there can be a slight bit of space between the
rest of the finger, and the weapon stock. You only
want to move the trigger, and not put any pressure
against the weapon you intend to fire.

If you have done all of this properly, you will not
even know exactly when the weapon will fire. Of
course you might be able to guess about when, but
each time should be an actual surprise. After all,
you are supposed to be focused on your target;
not the pull of the trigger. You must forget all
else around you to have your full concentration
on your target. You become 'one with the target';
you are a 'part of the target - you are on the
target', so how can you miss? As long as you have
control of your breathing and relaxed so as to
prevent your heart rate and pulse from interfering,
you have removed any trigger slack, and properly
squeezed the trigger all as a matter of habit,
then have maintained a proper sight picture, you
will accurately strike your target.

With an accurate rifle, and match ammo, you should
be able to keep a 3 round group under the size of
a quarter at 100 yards, and under a silver dollar
at 300.

Remember, the key is in the code word becoming a
habit.
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Posted 03 March 2010 - 05:56 AM

View PostUncle Buck, on 01 March 2010 - 10:05 PM, said:

By the way...Model99er stumbled on this too... I started shooting from a tripod standing at night time instead of sitting down.. You can't see for Jack .....when your sitting down and calling with a call at the same time looking for predator eyes to appear on the horizon......


Hell UB, I stumble onto everything I find !! LMAO :wacko: :lol:

DJ, I use something similar to the BRASS method, mine is the PAS method ... Point, Aim, & Shoot ... too damn much thinking bout it always caused me more misses or missed opertunities than hits. LOL :lol:


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Posted 03 March 2010 - 06:26 PM

View Postmodel99er, on 03 March 2010 - 04:56 AM, said:

DJ, I use something similar to the BRASS method, mine is the PAS method ... Point, Aim, & Shoot ... too damn much thinking bout it always caused me more misses or missed opertunities than hits. LOL :lol:

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LOL. I know what you mean 99. It seems that when we get to the stage
of our lives where we get onto that 'C-food' diet, we also lose our
ability to learn new habits. We might develop new, bad ones cause
they are easy, but none of the ones that we need to gain as a
second nature where we have to do the thinking part to learn.

If I hadn't learned the BRASS concept before now, I would probably
also have a tough time with it today. Now, it is just a second
nature to me; the same as using both eyes to focus through my
sights at a target so that a strong eye is able to compensate for
a weak one.

I guess that is what caused the old adage of, "You can't teach
an old dog new tricks" huh? LOL
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Posted 03 March 2010 - 07:00 PM

View PostDJnRF, on 03 March 2010 - 06:26 PM, said:

LOL. I know what you mean 99. It seems that when we get to the stage
of our lives where we get onto that 'C-food' diet, we also lose our
ability to learn new habits.


DJ,

I dunno, being older has taught a few things, not 100% sure I like them thou ... :D
1. It pays to have a better "rest" for one's rifle nowadays ... hence me stumbling onto (as UB sez) using a Tripod, for the longer shots now. LOL :lol:
2. Heart-Lung shots produce better results now, prolly equivalent to the head and neck shots I was quite accurate with as a young pup with a much younger set of eyes !! LMAO :lol: :lol:


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Posted 03 March 2010 - 08:26 PM

View Postmodel99er, on 03 March 2010 - 06:00 PM, said:

DJ,

I dunno, being older has taught a few things, not 100% sure I like them thou ... :D
1. It pays to have a better "rest" for one's rifle nowadays ... hence me stumbling onto (as UB sez) using a Tripod, for the longer shots now. LOL :lol:
2. Heart-Lung shots produce better results now, prolly equivalent to the head and neck shots I was quite accurate with as a young pup with a much younger set of eyes !! LMAO :lol: :lol:


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I also learned it is also always best to get a bigger gun.
Not so much tendency to miss that way. How about a .460 mag
for those groundhogs, or an 8 ga for those pesty coyotes??? lol
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Posted 04 March 2010 - 07:13 AM

View PostDJnRF, on 03 March 2010 - 08:26 PM, said:

or an 8 ga for those pesty coyotes??? lol


Nah, I shot a 10ga once. :lol:


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Posted 04 March 2010 - 08:18 PM

View Postmodel99er, on 04 March 2010 - 06:13 AM, said:

Nah, I shot a 10ga once. :lol:


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Well, you just haven't lived until you've tried the 8 ga.
Why, it will surely readjust the old bones, and not even
a chiropractor could do more. LOL
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