[Uncle Buck]

When hunting large tracts of farm or land place the call behind you..Aim it down wind. you post 100,200, 250 yards down wind of the speaker. then sit cross wind of the direct sound beam or the person calling....Read the land to know which side of the main sound beam to post. Best to put interference on the side your shooting on...Rock pile, ranch house etc..Something that makes the animal make the arc on the opposite side of where your posting...This is great for coyotes........They sure are not going to make their 200-250 yard arc into a ranch house..

However when you call small tracts of land..Maybe an area that you can only see and acre in front of you....Maybe the ole horeshoe or the U set up...Tree line and building on three sides open area at your back. Put the speaker in front of you and aim it down wind...place the speaker in a bush, tree etc that is half of the acre.. Now this is the time for you to sit 1/2 acre behind the speaker..Not in line with the wind but to the right or left.
See what you want the coyote or fox to do here is to come into the wind..But go to the speaker.. Now your already in shotgun or rifle range.. The fox or coyote will not smell you...Kind of set up cross wind of the main sound beam of the speaker. the fox or coyote will enter the small area and head for the speaker. Sometimes good things do come in small packages...

[Uncle Buck]

I do read a lot predator calling articles and they always say to keep the wind in your face...Might be good on real wide wide wide open spaces...Here in the East we have small farms and big farms..It has been my experience that predators (Most Times) always come into the wind...Why would I want the wind in my face if they would come to my backside then?

Also mouth calling and using electronics...watch this they will get in direct line with the loudest part of the speaker sound beam too...You can face the speaker up wind...Have them work the sound then have them make their arc down wind to come into the call...I face the speaker down wind and set up cross wind if I am posting 100,200,250 yards down wind of the speaker...small places I have just learned recently...Have them go to the call and pop them one from the cross wind side but not down wind of the speaker...your already in range just make them go to the speaker (loudest part into the wind).


When I do post down wind 200 250 yards for coyotes...They are known to make their arc at 200 and or 250 and then come into the wind... Now I am setting up 250 yards to the side of the main speaker sound beam or person calling..
If they make their arc on the cross wind side I am posting on and start coming into the wind..they smell me...what I do is use an obstacle. A neighbors ranch house, a barn, large piles of rocks, farm equipment. Keep that on my side of the arc..they can't go through a ranch house when they make their 200 yard arc.. Hence I keep it on my side all the obstacles......They then have to make their arc on the other side of me...Arc 200 yards come into the direct line with the loudest part of the speaker and I get a shot when they pass my posting area on the other side of the main sound beam...


Eastern hunters remember this: They will come into the wind so watch the down wind side...Also they will get in direct line with the loudest part of the mouth calling or speaker... So watch for them...Down wind and somewhere where the speaker or the upwind mouth caller is positioned...

[hemmy]

Good advice UB.We haven't killed one yet but we'll keep on trying.

[deadeyerik]

I'm gonna finally try to give it a go this evening. I got a Primos 250 yd. hunting light kit for Christmas. Just doubled my hunting time. The wife isn't too sure about giving that to me. She says she doesn't see me enough as it is.
Yesterday I went to the ranches where I did most of my deer and elk hunting and gave the landowners a bottle of Apple Pie. A little hooch that I make. Very tasty. Seen lots of tracks crossing the road and the ranchers said they have been seeing and hearing tons of them.

UB, This light doesn't have a yellow lens. You have said to use a yellow instead of red on full moons. How critical is this and why does it make a difference?

[Uncle Buck]

deadeyerik, on 27 December 2009 - 12:02 PM, said:

I'm gonna finally try to give it a go this evening. I got a Primos 250 yd. hunting light kit for Christmas. Just doubled my hunting time. The wife isn't too sure about giving that to me. She says she doesn't see me enough as it is.
Yesterday I went to the ranches where I did most of my deer and elk hunting and gave the landowners a bottle of Apple Pie. A little hooch that I make. Very tasty. Seen lots of tracks crossing the road and the ranchers said they have been seeing and hearing tons of them.

UB, This light doesn't have a yellow lens. You have said to use a yellow instead of red on full moons. How critical is this and why does it make a difference?

Onfull moon nights you can use a white light too... Can't remember ifthe Primos light has a rehostat on it to turn down the glow a bit. So your OK to use the white lite.. You just do not want to hit it with the full white beam all of a sudden.


also....you should use two lights... One to ID the animal and the other to shoot it.. just recently we have found out that if your using a red lens on your head or on a broom handle. You shooting light should have a red lens on it.. So if your going to use the white light to shoot with on your rifle...You should have a white light on your head or on a broom handle too..So many times when using the red lens light on my head or on a broom handle.. When I hit the fox with the white shooting light on the gun the fox ran away..Also I was not use to the white glare since I was using the red lens on my head.. Red lens on your head or in your hand then you want a red lens pop cover on your shooting light... Full moon...White light on your shooting light... Then a white light on your head or on a broom handle to ID animals...

[Mongojoe]

Uncle Buck, on 26 December 2009 - 03:49 PM, said:

I do read a lot predator calling articles and they always say to keep the wind in your face...Might be good on real wide wide wide open spaces...Here in the East we have small farms and big farms..It has been my experience that predators (Most Times) always come into the wind...Why would I want the wind in my face if they would come to my backside then?

Also mouth calling and using electronics...watch this they will get in direct line with the loudest part of the speaker sound beam too...You can face the speaker up wind...Have them work the sound then have them make their arc down wind to come into the call...I face the speaker down wind and set up cross wind if I am posting 100,200,250 yards down wind of the speaker...small places I have just learned recently...Have them go to the call and pop them one from the cross wind side but not down wind of the speaker...your already in range just make them go to the speaker (loudest part into the wind).


When I do post down wind 200 250 yards for coyotes...They are known to make their arc at 200 and or 250 and then come into the wind... Now I am setting up 250 yards to the side of the main speaker sound beam or person calling..
If they make their arc on the cross wind side I am posting on and start coming into the wind..they smell me...what I do is use an obstacle. A neighbors ranch house, a barn, large piles of rocks, farm equipment. Keep that on my side of the arc..they can't go through a ranch house when they make their 200 yard arc.. Hence I keep it on my side all the obstacles......They then have to make their arc on the other side of me...Arc 200 yards come into the direct line with the loudest part of the speaker and I get a shot when they pass my posting area on the other side of the main sound beam...


Eastern hunters remember this: They will come into the wind so watch the down wind side...Also they will get in direct line with the loudest part of the mouth calling or speaker... So watch for them...Down wind and somewhere where the speaker or the upwind mouth caller is positioned...

I always tried to set up so the wind was in my face...but that was not always possible, and many times I had to deal with a cross wind...and only occasionally did I call with the wind blowing from me toward the area I was calling to... But any way it went, it seems when the area was "open" like up on the prairie north and west of here, or across a really large pasture, the coyote (particularly if it were a single), would generally only get close enough to still feel safe, and then start circling to get a taste of the wind... Now, I did not say always. I only said generally... In areas where it was more wooded, thicker, or brushy, (shotgun country), they were not so bad about doing this...and, in these areas, particularly if they come in a pack and the area is really tight, it is not completely unusual for them to about run you over before they stop to check things out.